{"update": {"autokarma": false, "autotime": false, "stable_karma": 3, "stable_days": 14, "unstable_karma": -3, "require_bugs": true, "require_testcases": true, "display_name": "", "notes": "- New package", "type": "newpackage", "status": "unpushed", "request": null, "severity": "high", "suggest": "unspecified", "locked": false, "pushed": false, "critpath": false, "critpath_groups": null, "close_bugs": false, "date_submitted": "2020-04-30 19:37:31", "date_modified": null, "date_approved": null, "date_testing": "2020-05-01 11:14:05", "date_stable": null, "alias": "FEDORA-EPEL-2020-ad02b27ee3", "test_gating_status": "ignored", "from_tag": null, "date_pushed": "2020-05-01 11:14:05", "meets_testing_requirements": true, "url": "https://bodhi.stg.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2020-ad02b27ee3", "title": "cmake3-3.17.2-1.el8", "version_hash": "ac9f6f976b9504d2453e23183aebbb1a1df455f2", "release": {"name": "EPEL-8", "long_name": "Fedora EPEL 8", "version": "8", "id_prefix": "FEDORA-EPEL", "branch": "epel8", "dist_tag": "epel8", "stable_tag": "epel8", "testing_tag": "epel8-testing", "candidate_tag": "epel8-testing-candidate", "pending_signing_tag": "epel8-signing-pending", "pending_testing_tag": "epel8-testing-pending", "pending_stable_tag": "epel8-pending", "override_tag": "epel8-override", "mail_template": "fedora_epel_legacy_errata_template", "state": "current", "composed_by_bodhi": true, "create_automatic_updates": false, "package_manager": "unspecified", "testing_repository": null, "released_on": null, "eol": null, "critpath_mandatory_days_in_testing": 14, "mandatory_days_in_testing": 7, "critpath_min_karma": 2, "min_karma": 1, "setting_status": null}, "user": {"name": "sagitter", "email": "trpost@rocketmail.com", "id": 329, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/7b7f0481363bff8e9c960ad1e8aa97f7531ffb3dd41a7f662812ec8c1ad1bd19?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "sagitter.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}, {"name": "ambassadors"}, {"name": "neuro-sig"}, {"name": "scitech"}]}, "comments": [{"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "This update has been submitted for testing by sagitter. ", "timestamp": "2020-04-30 19:37:31", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 91, "id": 1351572, "bug_feedback": [], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "bodhi", "email": null, "id": 91, "avatar": "https://apps.fedoraproject.org/img/icons/bodhi-24.png", "openid": "bodhi.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": []}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "This update's test gating status has been changed to 'waiting'.", "timestamp": "2020-04-30 19:37:32", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 91, "id": 1351573, "bug_feedback": [], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "bodhi", "email": null, "id": 91, "avatar": "https://apps.fedoraproject.org/img/icons/bodhi-24.png", "openid": "bodhi.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": []}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "This update's test gating status has been changed to 'ignored'.", "timestamp": "2020-04-30 19:37:35", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 91, "id": 1351574, "bug_feedback": [], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "bodhi", "email": null, "id": 91, "avatar": "https://apps.fedoraproject.org/img/icons/bodhi-24.png", "openid": "bodhi.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": []}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "This update has been pushed to testing.", "timestamp": "2020-05-01 11:14:24", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 91, "id": 1352461, "bug_feedback": [], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "bodhi", "email": null, "id": 91, "avatar": "https://apps.fedoraproject.org/img/icons/bodhi-24.png", "openid": "bodhi.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": []}}, {"karma": 1, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "Thanks for that contribution!", "timestamp": "2020-05-01 14:49:34", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 356, "id": 1352574, "bug_feedback": [{"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1352574, "bug_id": 1756974, "bug": {"bug_id": 1756974, "title": "Please package a newer version of CMake (currently 3.15) into EPEL 8", "security": false, "parent": false}}], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "denisarnaud", "email": "denis.arnaud_fedora@m4x.org", "id": 356, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/744aa48196858f5bbdfbf557c0c3770ec004c4a4d6b4985a239d26e352ca7d71?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "denisarnaud.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "This is going to conflict with the CentOS cmake package as it currently \"provides\" cmake3... And mock is being stupid. Even if I manually install this package in the buildroot, mock still tries to install \"cmake\"\n\n    # dnf repoquery --provides cmake\n    Last metadata expiration check: 0:13:16 ago on Sun 03 May 2020 07:25:33 AM CDT.\n    bundled(kwsys)\n    bundled(md5-deutsch)\n    cmake = 3.11.4-3.el8\n    cmake(x86-64) = 3.11.4-3.el8\n    cmake3 = 3.11.4-3.el8\n\nI assume this is a leftover from EL 7 where cmake was on version 2.", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 12:41:50", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 174, "id": 1354743, "bug_feedback": [{"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354743, "bug_id": 1756974, "bug": {"bug_id": 1756974, "title": "Please package a newer version of CMake (currently 3.15) into EPEL 8", "security": false, "parent": false}}], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "hobbes1069", "email": "hobbes1069@gmail.com", "id": 174, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/d46bee4659f1a3c55b116ac575aa0e319e583e5cc56bea70f12a4f5fe4350365?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "hobbes1069.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "Worse, the CentOS package provides \"3\" versions of all the binaries:\n\n     Error: Transaction check error:\n     file /usr/bin/ccmake3 from install of cmake-3.11.4-3.el8.x86_64 conflicts with file from package cmake3-3.17.2- 1.el8.x86_64\n     file /usr/bin/cmake3 from install of cmake-3.11.4-3.el8.x86_64 conflicts with file from package cmake3-3.17.2-1.el8.x86_64\n     file /usr/bin/cpack3 from install of cmake-3.11.4-3.el8.x86_64 conflicts with file from package cmake3-3.17.2-1.el8.x86_64\n     file /usr/bin/ctest3 from install of cmake-3.11.4-3.el8.x86_64 conflicts with file from package cmake3-3.17.2-1.el8.x86_64", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 12:44:35", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 174, "id": 1354745, "bug_feedback": [{"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354745, "bug_id": 1756974, "bug": {"bug_id": 1756974, "title": "Please package a newer version of CMake (currently 3.15) into EPEL 8", "security": false, "parent": false}}], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "hobbes1069", "email": "hobbes1069@gmail.com", "id": 174, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/d46bee4659f1a3c55b116ac575aa0e319e583e5cc56bea70f12a4f5fe4350365?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "hobbes1069.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "Reported:\n\nhttps://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=17318", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 12:52:31", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 174, "id": 1354754, "bug_feedback": [{"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354754, "bug_id": 1756974, "bug": {"bug_id": 1756974, "title": "Please package a newer version of CMake (currently 3.15) into EPEL 8", "security": false, "parent": false}}], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "hobbes1069", "email": "hobbes1069@gmail.com", "id": 174, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/d46bee4659f1a3c55b116ac575aa0e319e583e5cc56bea70f12a4f5fe4350365?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "hobbes1069.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "I don't know why they need to install all binaries with as *3 or use `Provides: cmake3 = 3.11.4-3.el8`, unless CMake-2* is still provided by CentOS 8.\n\nThis prevents any `CMake` additional updated package.", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 13:54:43", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 329, "id": 1354793, "bug_feedback": [{"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354793, "bug_id": 1756974, "bug": {"bug_id": 1756974, "title": "Please package a newer version of CMake (currently 3.15) into EPEL 8", "security": false, "parent": false}}], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "sagitter", "email": "trpost@rocketmail.com", "id": 329, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/7b7f0481363bff8e9c960ad1e8aa97f7531ffb3dd41a7f662812ec8c1ad1bd19?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "sagitter.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}, {"name": "ambassadors"}, {"name": "neuro-sig"}, {"name": "scitech"}]}}, {"karma": -1, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "This package conflicts with provided ./rhel-8-for-x86_64-appstream-rpms/Packages/c/cmake-3.11.4-3.el8.x86_64.rpm which provides cmake3 and contains the packages\n\n/usr/bin/ccmake3\n/usr/bin/cmake3\n/usr/bin/cpack3\n/usr/bin/ctest3\n/usr/lib/.build-id\n\nThe only way I can see this being allowed in EPEL would be for the EPEL cmake3 package being called cmake3.17 and not conflicting with the above files.", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 14:01:35", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 398, "id": 1354799, "bug_feedback": [{"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354799, "bug_id": 1756974, "bug": {"bug_id": 1756974, "title": "Please package a newer version of CMake (currently 3.15) into EPEL 8", "security": false, "parent": false}}], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "smooge", "email": "smooge@redhat.com", "id": 398, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/7307344b121111b0fbfe3858b100a8e005c8757a552ec5e813ac4320b18c6162?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "smooge.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "epel-cabal"}, {"name": "epelproject"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}, {"name": "sysadmin-noc"}, {"name": "epel-wranglers"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "wikiadmin"}, {"name": "sysadmin-veteran"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "centosproject-email-aliases"}, {"name": "qa_users"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "communishift"}, {"name": "sysadmin-centos"}, {"name": "sysadmin-analysis"}, {"name": "sysadmin-securit"}, {"name": "sysadmin-devel"}, {"name": "sysadmin-teleirc"}, {"name": "gitfedora-zikula"}, {"name": "admins"}, {"name": "sysadmin-accounts"}, {"name": "sysadmin-cloud"}, {"name": "sysadmin-calendar"}, {"name": "atomic"}, {"name": "gitsecstate"}, {"name": "sysadmin-survey"}, {"name": "accounts"}, {"name": "epel-packagers-sig"}, {"name": "sysadmin-ppc"}, {"name": "vendor-support"}, {"name": "sysadmin"}, {"name": "aws-infra"}, {"name": "sysadmin-web"}, {"name": "sysadmin-logs"}, {"name": "sysadmin-dns"}, {"name": "sysadmin-backup"}, {"name": "fi-apprentice"}, {"name": "sig-infra"}, {"name": "sysadmin-main"}, {"name": "sysadmin-dba"}, {"name": "sysadmin-hosted"}]}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "Bodhi is disabling automatic push to stable due to negative karma. The maintainer may push manually if they determine that the issue is not severe.", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 14:01:36", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 91, "id": 1354800, "bug_feedback": [], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "bodhi", "email": null, "id": 91, "avatar": "https://apps.fedoraproject.org/img/icons/bodhi-24.png", "openid": "bodhi.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": []}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "The only other fix I can see with this would be to make a cmake module which would allow for this replacement. ", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 14:04:12", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 398, "id": 1354801, "bug_feedback": [{"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354801, "bug_id": 1756974, "bug": {"bug_id": 1756974, "title": "Please package a newer version of CMake (currently 3.15) into EPEL 8", "security": false, "parent": false}}], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "smooge", "email": "smooge@redhat.com", "id": 398, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/7307344b121111b0fbfe3858b100a8e005c8757a552ec5e813ac4320b18c6162?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "smooge.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "epel-cabal"}, {"name": "epelproject"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}, {"name": "sysadmin-noc"}, {"name": "epel-wranglers"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "wikiadmin"}, {"name": "sysadmin-veteran"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "centosproject-email-aliases"}, {"name": "qa_users"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "communishift"}, {"name": "sysadmin-centos"}, {"name": "sysadmin-analysis"}, {"name": "sysadmin-securit"}, {"name": "sysadmin-devel"}, {"name": "sysadmin-teleirc"}, {"name": "gitfedora-zikula"}, {"name": "admins"}, {"name": "sysadmin-accounts"}, {"name": "sysadmin-cloud"}, {"name": "sysadmin-calendar"}, {"name": "atomic"}, {"name": "gitsecstate"}, {"name": "sysadmin-survey"}, {"name": "accounts"}, {"name": "epel-packagers-sig"}, {"name": "sysadmin-ppc"}, {"name": "vendor-support"}, {"name": "sysadmin"}, {"name": "aws-infra"}, {"name": "sysadmin-web"}, {"name": "sysadmin-logs"}, {"name": "sysadmin-dns"}, {"name": "sysadmin-backup"}, {"name": "fi-apprentice"}, {"name": "sig-infra"}, {"name": "sysadmin-main"}, {"name": "sysadmin-dba"}, {"name": "sysadmin-hosted"}]}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "Ok, this is where CentOS is just repackaging RHEL, so really this is a RHEL bug.\n", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 16:32:34", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 174, "id": 1354929, "bug_feedback": [{"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354929, "bug_id": 1756974, "bug": {"bug_id": 1756974, "title": "Please package a newer version of CMake (currently 3.15) into EPEL 8", "security": false, "parent": false}}], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "hobbes1069", "email": "hobbes1069@gmail.com", "id": 174, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/d46bee4659f1a3c55b116ac575aa0e319e583e5cc56bea70f12a4f5fe4350365?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "hobbes1069.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1830748", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 16:36:43", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 174, "id": 1354930, "bug_feedback": [{"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354930, "bug_id": 1756974, "bug": {"bug_id": 1756974, "title": "Please package a newer version of CMake (currently 3.15) into EPEL 8", "security": false, "parent": false}}], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "hobbes1069", "email": "hobbes1069@gmail.com", "id": 174, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/d46bee4659f1a3c55b116ac575aa0e319e583e5cc56bea70f12a4f5fe4350365?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "hobbes1069.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}, {"karma": -1, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "This package is not installable.\n\n> Ok, this is where CentOS is just repackaging RHEL, so really this is a RHEL bug.\n\n> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1830748\n\nThis is not a RHEL bug, you are trying to create the same package with a newer version number.\n\nThe cmake vs cmake3 split made sense in EPEL 7 where the base repos  had CMake 2 and the EPEL repos had CMake 3. This does not make sense anymore, since the cmake package in the base repos already is version 3.\n\nHow does it make sense for there to be \"cmake\" and \"cmake3\" packages at the same time, when both are version 3?\n\nThe only right move here would be to create a module that contains the \"cmake\" package, but overrides the base version. This is exactly the situation that modules *should* be good for.", "timestamp": "2020-05-11 10:16:18", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 3312, "id": 1365852, "bug_feedback": [{"karma": -1, "comment_id": 1365852, "bug_id": 1756974, "bug": {"bug_id": 1756974, "title": "Please package a newer version of CMake (currently 3.15) into EPEL 8", "security": false, "parent": false}}], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "akors", "email": "fat.lobyte9@gmail.com", "id": 3312, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/10159d46dfce4ef30dfd5698277e149394448129f6c1b93f780a97f8cb71c6d4?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "akors.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": []}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": ">How does it make sense for there to be \"cmake\" and \"cmake3\" packages at the same time, when both are version 3?\n\nIt's clearly specified in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1756974", "timestamp": "2020-05-11 10:27:01", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 329, "id": 1365870, "bug_feedback": [{"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1365870, "bug_id": 1756974, "bug": {"bug_id": 1756974, "title": "Please package a newer version of CMake (currently 3.15) into EPEL 8", "security": false, "parent": false}}], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "sagitter", "email": "trpost@rocketmail.com", "id": 329, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/7b7f0481363bff8e9c960ad1e8aa97f7531ffb3dd41a7f662812ec8c1ad1bd19?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "sagitter.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}, {"name": "ambassadors"}, {"name": "neuro-sig"}, {"name": "scitech"}]}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "This update has been unpushed.", "timestamp": "2020-05-11 10:27:12", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 329, "id": 1365871, "bug_feedback": [], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "sagitter", "email": "trpost@rocketmail.com", "id": 329, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/7b7f0481363bff8e9c960ad1e8aa97f7531ffb3dd41a7f662812ec8c1ad1bd19?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "sagitter.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}, {"name": "ambassadors"}, {"name": "neuro-sig"}, {"name": "scitech"}]}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "I was able to install that package (cmake3 v3.17), admittedly first removing the RHEL cmake one.\n\nNewer versions of cmake (v3.15+) are really needed.\n\nWhile I fully understand why the ABI of runtime libraries must not be upgraded/bumped during the lifetime of a LTS (Long Term Supported) distribution, I am less convinced of the rationale of keeping build tools like cmake well behind. Users of the distributions are not negatively impacted by upgrades of build tools such as cmake. On the contrary, the users of build tools are by design developers (C/C++ developers in the case of CMake), and keeping the build tools outdated just add on the burden to maintain packages, obliging us to constantly backport bug fixes on both the upstream packages and on the build tools themselves. Maintaining my own packages with cmake 3.11 on EPEL is practically impossible, now that upstream has realized the benefit of CMake v3.15+, especially when it comes to support of Python 3 and latest Boost libraries: the CMake support files have been drastically re-worked and no longer compatible with older versions of CMake, including cmake 3.11.\n\nSo, if CMake is not upgraded on EPEL, I will have to abandon the maintenance of most of my own packages there.\nHopefully we will find a solution. Let's be it if it is with modules, fair enough. I would then be grateful if someone be kind enough to explain how to make use of it once the new CMake modules are properly cooked :)\n\nThanks!\n\n\n", "timestamp": "2020-05-11 20:18:30", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 356, "id": 1366690, "bug_feedback": [{"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1366690, "bug_id": 1756974, "bug": {"bug_id": 1756974, "title": "Please package a newer version of CMake (currently 3.15) into EPEL 8", "security": false, "parent": false}}], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "denisarnaud", "email": "denis.arnaud_fedora@m4x.org", "id": 356, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/744aa48196858f5bbdfbf557c0c3770ec004c4a4d6b4985a239d26e352ca7d71?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "denisarnaud.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "Strange situation indeed. If we go the module route then it should be in the \"cmake\" dist-git not \"cmake3\", but do we need an epel8 branch? If so how do we ask? I assume if we requested one it would get denied as it exists in RHEL/CentOS...", "timestamp": "2020-05-14 11:42:12", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 174, "id": 1370668, "bug_feedback": [{"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1370668, "bug_id": 1756974, "bug": {"bug_id": 1756974, "title": "Please package a newer version of CMake (currently 3.15) into EPEL 8", "security": false, "parent": false}}], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "hobbes1069", "email": "hobbes1069@gmail.com", "id": 174, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/d46bee4659f1a3c55b116ac575aa0e319e583e5cc56bea70f12a4f5fe4350365?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "hobbes1069.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}, {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "I have started a thread on the epel-devel mailing list:\nhttps://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/ICZGG2SQKUTV2JUBAS4XTWX2FQIKZT27/\n\nI hope to get some replies that could gives us some direction.", "timestamp": "2020-05-15 09:05:49", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 3312, "id": 1372018, "bug_feedback": [{"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1372018, "bug_id": 1756974, "bug": {"bug_id": 1756974, "title": "Please package a newer version of CMake (currently 3.15) into EPEL 8", "security": false, "parent": false}}], "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "akors", "email": "fat.lobyte9@gmail.com", "id": 3312, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/10159d46dfce4ef30dfd5698277e149394448129f6c1b93f780a97f8cb71c6d4?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "akors.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": []}}], "builds": [{"nvr": "cmake3-3.17.2-1.el8", "signed": true, "release_id": 34, "type": "rpm", "epoch": 0}], "bugs": [{"bug_id": 1756974, "title": "Please package a newer version of CMake (currently 3.15) into EPEL 8", "security": false, "parent": false, "feedback": [{"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354929, "bug_id": 1756974, "comment": {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "Ok, this is where CentOS is just repackaging RHEL, so really this is a RHEL bug.\n", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 16:32:34", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 174, "id": 1354929, "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "hobbes1069", "email": "hobbes1069@gmail.com", "id": 174, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/d46bee4659f1a3c55b116ac575aa0e319e583e5cc56bea70f12a4f5fe4350365?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "hobbes1069.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}}, {"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354930, "bug_id": 1756974, "comment": {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1830748", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 16:36:43", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 174, "id": 1354930, "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "hobbes1069", "email": "hobbes1069@gmail.com", "id": 174, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/d46bee4659f1a3c55b116ac575aa0e319e583e5cc56bea70f12a4f5fe4350365?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "hobbes1069.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}}, {"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1352574, "bug_id": 1756974, "comment": {"karma": 1, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "Thanks for that contribution!", "timestamp": "2020-05-01 14:49:34", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 356, "id": 1352574, "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "denisarnaud", "email": "denis.arnaud_fedora@m4x.org", "id": 356, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/744aa48196858f5bbdfbf557c0c3770ec004c4a4d6b4985a239d26e352ca7d71?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "denisarnaud.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}}, {"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354743, "bug_id": 1756974, "comment": {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "This is going to conflict with the CentOS cmake package as it currently \"provides\" cmake3... And mock is being stupid. Even if I manually install this package in the buildroot, mock still tries to install \"cmake\"\n\n    # dnf repoquery --provides cmake\n    Last metadata expiration check: 0:13:16 ago on Sun 03 May 2020 07:25:33 AM CDT.\n    bundled(kwsys)\n    bundled(md5-deutsch)\n    cmake = 3.11.4-3.el8\n    cmake(x86-64) = 3.11.4-3.el8\n    cmake3 = 3.11.4-3.el8\n\nI assume this is a leftover from EL 7 where cmake was on version 2.", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 12:41:50", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 174, "id": 1354743, "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "hobbes1069", "email": "hobbes1069@gmail.com", "id": 174, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/d46bee4659f1a3c55b116ac575aa0e319e583e5cc56bea70f12a4f5fe4350365?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "hobbes1069.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}}, {"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354745, "bug_id": 1756974, "comment": {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "Worse, the CentOS package provides \"3\" versions of all the binaries:\n\n     Error: Transaction check error:\n     file /usr/bin/ccmake3 from install of cmake-3.11.4-3.el8.x86_64 conflicts with file from package cmake3-3.17.2- 1.el8.x86_64\n     file /usr/bin/cmake3 from install of cmake-3.11.4-3.el8.x86_64 conflicts with file from package cmake3-3.17.2-1.el8.x86_64\n     file /usr/bin/cpack3 from install of cmake-3.11.4-3.el8.x86_64 conflicts with file from package cmake3-3.17.2-1.el8.x86_64\n     file /usr/bin/ctest3 from install of cmake-3.11.4-3.el8.x86_64 conflicts with file from package cmake3-3.17.2-1.el8.x86_64", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 12:44:35", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 174, "id": 1354745, "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "hobbes1069", "email": "hobbes1069@gmail.com", "id": 174, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/d46bee4659f1a3c55b116ac575aa0e319e583e5cc56bea70f12a4f5fe4350365?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "hobbes1069.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}}, {"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354754, "bug_id": 1756974, "comment": {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "Reported:\n\nhttps://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=17318", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 12:52:31", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 174, "id": 1354754, "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "hobbes1069", "email": "hobbes1069@gmail.com", "id": 174, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/d46bee4659f1a3c55b116ac575aa0e319e583e5cc56bea70f12a4f5fe4350365?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "hobbes1069.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}}, {"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354793, "bug_id": 1756974, "comment": {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "I don't know why they need to install all binaries with as *3 or use `Provides: cmake3 = 3.11.4-3.el8`, unless CMake-2* is still provided by CentOS 8.\n\nThis prevents any `CMake` additional updated package.", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 13:54:43", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 329, "id": 1354793, "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "sagitter", "email": "trpost@rocketmail.com", "id": 329, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/7b7f0481363bff8e9c960ad1e8aa97f7531ffb3dd41a7f662812ec8c1ad1bd19?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "sagitter.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}, {"name": "ambassadors"}, {"name": "neuro-sig"}, {"name": "scitech"}]}}}, {"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354799, "bug_id": 1756974, "comment": {"karma": -1, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "This package conflicts with provided ./rhel-8-for-x86_64-appstream-rpms/Packages/c/cmake-3.11.4-3.el8.x86_64.rpm which provides cmake3 and contains the packages\n\n/usr/bin/ccmake3\n/usr/bin/cmake3\n/usr/bin/cpack3\n/usr/bin/ctest3\n/usr/lib/.build-id\n\nThe only way I can see this being allowed in EPEL would be for the EPEL cmake3 package being called cmake3.17 and not conflicting with the above files.", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 14:01:35", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 398, "id": 1354799, "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "smooge", "email": "smooge@redhat.com", "id": 398, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/7307344b121111b0fbfe3858b100a8e005c8757a552ec5e813ac4320b18c6162?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "smooge.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "epel-cabal"}, {"name": "epelproject"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}, {"name": "sysadmin-noc"}, {"name": "epel-wranglers"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "wikiadmin"}, {"name": "sysadmin-veteran"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "centosproject-email-aliases"}, {"name": "qa_users"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "communishift"}, {"name": "sysadmin-centos"}, {"name": "sysadmin-analysis"}, {"name": "sysadmin-securit"}, {"name": "sysadmin-devel"}, {"name": "sysadmin-teleirc"}, {"name": "gitfedora-zikula"}, {"name": "admins"}, {"name": "sysadmin-accounts"}, {"name": "sysadmin-cloud"}, {"name": "sysadmin-calendar"}, {"name": "atomic"}, {"name": "gitsecstate"}, {"name": "sysadmin-survey"}, {"name": "accounts"}, {"name": "epel-packagers-sig"}, {"name": "sysadmin-ppc"}, {"name": "vendor-support"}, {"name": "sysadmin"}, {"name": "aws-infra"}, {"name": "sysadmin-web"}, {"name": "sysadmin-logs"}, {"name": "sysadmin-dns"}, {"name": "sysadmin-backup"}, {"name": "fi-apprentice"}, {"name": "sig-infra"}, {"name": "sysadmin-main"}, {"name": "sysadmin-dba"}, {"name": "sysadmin-hosted"}]}}}, {"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1354801, "bug_id": 1756974, "comment": {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "The only other fix I can see with this would be to make a cmake module which would allow for this replacement. ", "timestamp": "2020-05-03 14:04:12", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 398, "id": 1354801, "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "smooge", "email": "smooge@redhat.com", "id": 398, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/7307344b121111b0fbfe3858b100a8e005c8757a552ec5e813ac4320b18c6162?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "smooge.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "epel-cabal"}, {"name": "epelproject"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}, {"name": "sysadmin-noc"}, {"name": "epel-wranglers"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "wikiadmin"}, {"name": "sysadmin-veteran"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "centosproject-email-aliases"}, {"name": "qa_users"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "communishift"}, {"name": "sysadmin-centos"}, {"name": "sysadmin-analysis"}, {"name": "sysadmin-securit"}, {"name": "sysadmin-devel"}, {"name": "sysadmin-teleirc"}, {"name": "gitfedora-zikula"}, {"name": "admins"}, {"name": "sysadmin-accounts"}, {"name": "sysadmin-cloud"}, {"name": "sysadmin-calendar"}, {"name": "atomic"}, {"name": "gitsecstate"}, {"name": "sysadmin-survey"}, {"name": "accounts"}, {"name": "epel-packagers-sig"}, {"name": "sysadmin-ppc"}, {"name": "vendor-support"}, {"name": "sysadmin"}, {"name": "aws-infra"}, {"name": "sysadmin-web"}, {"name": "sysadmin-logs"}, {"name": "sysadmin-dns"}, {"name": "sysadmin-backup"}, {"name": "fi-apprentice"}, {"name": "sig-infra"}, {"name": "sysadmin-main"}, {"name": "sysadmin-dba"}, {"name": "sysadmin-hosted"}]}}}, {"karma": -1, "comment_id": 1365852, "bug_id": 1756974, "comment": {"karma": -1, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "This package is not installable.\n\n> Ok, this is where CentOS is just repackaging RHEL, so really this is a RHEL bug.\n\n> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1830748\n\nThis is not a RHEL bug, you are trying to create the same package with a newer version number.\n\nThe cmake vs cmake3 split made sense in EPEL 7 where the base repos  had CMake 2 and the EPEL repos had CMake 3. This does not make sense anymore, since the cmake package in the base repos already is version 3.\n\nHow does it make sense for there to be \"cmake\" and \"cmake3\" packages at the same time, when both are version 3?\n\nThe only right move here would be to create a module that contains the \"cmake\" package, but overrides the base version. This is exactly the situation that modules *should* be good for.", "timestamp": "2020-05-11 10:16:18", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 3312, "id": 1365852, "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "akors", "email": "fat.lobyte9@gmail.com", "id": 3312, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/10159d46dfce4ef30dfd5698277e149394448129f6c1b93f780a97f8cb71c6d4?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "akors.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": []}}}, {"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1365870, "bug_id": 1756974, "comment": {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": ">How does it make sense for there to be \"cmake\" and \"cmake3\" packages at the same time, when both are version 3?\n\nIt's clearly specified in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1756974", "timestamp": "2020-05-11 10:27:01", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 329, "id": 1365870, "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "sagitter", "email": "trpost@rocketmail.com", "id": 329, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/7b7f0481363bff8e9c960ad1e8aa97f7531ffb3dd41a7f662812ec8c1ad1bd19?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "sagitter.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}, {"name": "ambassadors"}, {"name": "neuro-sig"}, {"name": "scitech"}]}}}, {"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1366690, "bug_id": 1756974, "comment": {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "I was able to install that package (cmake3 v3.17), admittedly first removing the RHEL cmake one.\n\nNewer versions of cmake (v3.15+) are really needed.\n\nWhile I fully understand why the ABI of runtime libraries must not be upgraded/bumped during the lifetime of a LTS (Long Term Supported) distribution, I am less convinced of the rationale of keeping build tools like cmake well behind. Users of the distributions are not negatively impacted by upgrades of build tools such as cmake. On the contrary, the users of build tools are by design developers (C/C++ developers in the case of CMake), and keeping the build tools outdated just add on the burden to maintain packages, obliging us to constantly backport bug fixes on both the upstream packages and on the build tools themselves. Maintaining my own packages with cmake 3.11 on EPEL is practically impossible, now that upstream has realized the benefit of CMake v3.15+, especially when it comes to support of Python 3 and latest Boost libraries: the CMake support files have been drastically re-worked and no longer compatible with older versions of CMake, including cmake 3.11.\n\nSo, if CMake is not upgraded on EPEL, I will have to abandon the maintenance of most of my own packages there.\nHopefully we will find a solution. Let's be it if it is with modules, fair enough. I would then be grateful if someone be kind enough to explain how to make use of it once the new CMake modules are properly cooked :)\n\nThanks!\n\n\n", "timestamp": "2020-05-11 20:18:30", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 356, "id": 1366690, "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "denisarnaud", "email": "denis.arnaud_fedora@m4x.org", "id": 356, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/744aa48196858f5bbdfbf557c0c3770ec004c4a4d6b4985a239d26e352ca7d71?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "denisarnaud.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}}, {"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1370668, "bug_id": 1756974, "comment": {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "Strange situation indeed. If we go the module route then it should be in the \"cmake\" dist-git not \"cmake3\", but do we need an epel8 branch? If so how do we ask? I assume if we requested one it would get denied as it exists in RHEL/CentOS...", "timestamp": "2020-05-14 11:42:12", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 174, "id": 1370668, "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "hobbes1069", "email": "hobbes1069@gmail.com", "id": 174, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/d46bee4659f1a3c55b116ac575aa0e319e583e5cc56bea70f12a4f5fe4350365?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "hobbes1069.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": [{"name": "packager"}, {"name": "provenpackager"}, {"name": "ipausers"}, {"name": "fedora-contributor"}, {"name": "signed_fpca"}, {"name": "fedorabugs"}]}}}, {"karma": 0, "comment_id": 1372018, "bug_id": 1756974, "comment": {"karma": 0, "karma_critpath": 0, "text": "I have started a thread on the epel-devel mailing list:\nhttps://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/ICZGG2SQKUTV2JUBAS4XTWX2FQIKZT27/\n\nI hope to get some replies that could gives us some direction.", "timestamp": "2020-05-15 09:05:49", "update_id": 203689, "user_id": 3312, "id": 1372018, "testcase_feedback": [], "user": {"name": "akors", "email": "fat.lobyte9@gmail.com", "id": 3312, "avatar": "https://seccdn.libravatar.org/avatar/10159d46dfce4ef30dfd5698277e149394448129f6c1b93f780a97f8cb71c6d4?s=24&d=retro", "openid": "akors.id.stg.fedoraproject.org", "groups": []}}}]}], "updateid": "FEDORA-EPEL-2020-ad02b27ee3", "karma": -1, "content_type": "rpm", "test_cases": []}, "can_edit": false, "ci_allowed": false}